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Sunday, February 23rd we visited, “White Stone Christian Fellowship.”

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Sunday, February 23rd we visited, “White Stone Christian Fellowship.” Their address is 427 14th Ave N, Payette, ID 83661. Their phone number is (208) 642-4630. The Pastor is Dennis Dickinson. His e-mail address is dennis@wscfpayette.com.

1. How approachable/welcoming, is the Pastor before and/or after the service? Pastor Dennis greeted us as we came in to the sanctuary and he talked to us after the service.
2. How friendly is the congregation? The congregation was small.  We were only engaged in conversation by a couple of people during the moments of fellowship.
3. How many congregants were there? Approximately 20-30
4. How do they take the offering? There was an offering box as you walk into the sanctuary.
5. Where are they located? Their address is 427 14th Ave N, Payette, I D.
6. How is the service broke down between, prayers, worship, and sermon? I wasn’t watching the time so these are approximations, it felt like about 15 minutes of good, God centered hymns and some worship songs, about 5-10 minutes of prayer total, and 30-40 minutes of sermon.
7. What is the condition of their facilities? The facilities were average for a small church.  The parking lot needs resurfacing.  That might be an issue for people with walkers or wheel chairs.
8. What is the preaching style of their Pastor? Expository
9. Do they use a specific translation of the Bible, or prohibit any translations, if so why? They didn’t officially say which one to use, but after talking to the Pastor, he likes the NASB 🙂
10. Do they have a web page? If so, is there a clear, orthodox, confession or statement of faith? Yes, here is the link http://www.wscfpayette.com/ and yes there is, http://www.wscfpayette.com/doctrines-bylaws/
Pastor Dickinson is very knowledgeable. He understands Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew. Matter of fact they have a Bible School connected to the Church where he teaches. The school is Charnock Institute of the Bible. Here is the link http://www.charnockedu.com/
Intersting note, Charnock is the last name of Stephen Charnock, a puritan theologian.

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The Fear of the Lord

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The fear of the Lord

 

            I was talking with a friend.  He brought up an observation he made.  He thought that there are many people who claim to be Christian, but won’t open their Bibles.  He observed that they also have several abhorrent personal practices, and beliefs.  He was frustrated by their resistance to him, attempting to, lovingly correct them with scripture.  He said, “It’s almost like they’re afraid to see what’s in there.” 

            How many of us have had the same experience?  It seems pretty typical.  Usually this is the person who claims to be Christian, but loves tons of other things, over Jesus and His Church.  They might go to Church, but Jesus, His word, and His bride, are far from their thoughts, or affections. 

            I would have to agree with my friend.  I think people are afraid to look in the Bible, and see what it says.  I believe that, in their hearts, they suspect they are wrong.  They know that they might be the goats, on the left waiting to be told, “‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’”   They have every reason to be afraid to look in the word, but they also have that much more of a reason to look, and see.  If only they would open the word, read, and study it. 

            We know that gospel is the power of God unto salvation.  We know that faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.  We need to pray for them, and be faithful in our witness to them.  They have the wrong kind of fear.  They fear, finding out they are wrong.  They fear having to give up the things they love.  They fear, having Jesus as their Lord, when they should fear Jesus as their Judge and punishment under condemnation.  They know just enough to be scared off from finding the precious grace offered to us by Christ, in repentance and faith.  Their fear needs to shake them to their very core, and break every allegiance and bond of worldliness. 

The fear they have is impotent because they don’t understand how truly fearsome God is.  To them God is just a little old master craftsmen in a story book, who put together the world.  If they could only see, even if it is just with limited sinful human understanding, how vast, infinite, holy, and powerful God is, perhaps they could see their idolatry and repent of it.  I pray that we all are kept from undue worldliness and that God will convict us of our sins through the Holy Spirit that we may repent.  May He keep us from temptation and deliver us from our oppression, in the name of Jesus our Savior, Amen.

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​Ash Wednes​day For Nazarenes: The Catholic Way​

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In 2009, Ashes to Fire was published and distributed by Nazarene Publishing House.  Now Ash Wednesday is ever increasing in popularity in the Church of the Nazarene. While General Superintendents ignore Bible-believing Nazarenes and their concerns, they are clearly on board with the Roman “Catholization” of the church.  Just a few readings over at Sacramental Nazarenes Facebook group shows how serious they are in going full steam ahead, including the use of ashes to the forehead Catholic style.  To what end?  This was not my father’s denomination when he was alive; he was rescued from Roman Catholicism, and now the leadership has no problem becoming more like the RCC.  Is it financial motivation?  Is it to get more members and show how diverse or welcoming the church is?  That would be ironic, since there seems to be very little room for Bible-believers now, unless…

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Peter do you love me?

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Peter do you love me?

Something interesting, that I don’t remember thinking about before, is found in 1John 21:15-17.  My son Josh was visiting us.  He and I were talking, and he asked if I ever thought of what Jesus was doing when He was asking Peter if he loved Him?  You see, the first two times Jesus asks Peter if he loves Him, He uses the Greek word, “ἀγαπᾷς” it transliterates as, “agapas.”  It is a form of the word, “agape.”  I’ve always been told by people and Preachers that the word, “agape” means, God’s perfect, sacrificial love.  While looking the word up it seems there is more to it than that.  It also has implications of a willful, reasoned, self-volitional type of love.  We also see that this type of love is supposed to be reciprocated by us, to God, and we are supposed to love each other in the same way, in 2Matthew 22:37-39 when Jesus, in Greek uses the word, “Ἀγαπήσεις” or “Agapēseis.”

So why does Peter respond with the Greek word, “φιλῶ” which transliterates as, “philō.”  Philō implies a warm, brotherly love, the kind of love you would have for a very close friend.  So Peter is responding back with a more reserved, lesser type of love, than what Jesus is asking him about.  Keep in mind, this is after Peter had denied that he even knew Jesus, to save his own neck.  Jesus is fully aware of this, and what is going on in Peter’s heart.  One has to wonder, “What was going on in Peter’s mind after these questions from Jesus?”  I’m not going to make any assumptions here.  What we read in the Bible is enough.  It is just one of those things that I have wondered about.  I hope to find out one day.  I think I’ll pass this on to one of my more learned friends and see what they have to say.  I’ll get back to you all.  Maybe, they can comment on this article?

115So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Tend My lambs.”16He said to him again a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Shepherd My sheep.”17He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Tend My sheep.

2Matthew 22:37-39 (NASB) “…37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’38“This is the great and foremost commandment.39“The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’…”

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First Impressions, the Criteria I Plan on Using.

  1. How approachable/welcoming, is the Pastor before and/or after the service?
  2. How friendly is the congregation?
  3. How many congregants are there?
  4. How do they take the offering?
  5. Where are they located?
  6. How is the service broke down between, prayers, worship, and sermon?
  7. What is the condition of their facilities?
  8. What is the preaching style of their Pastor?
  9. Do they use a specific translation of the Bible, or prohibit any translations, if so why?
  10. Do they have a web page?  If so, is there a clear, orthodox, confession or statement of faith?

There are some more important criteria for evaluating a Church.  I will list those next.  The important things take more than a  first impression.  The first impression can be helpful in determining if it is worth learning more about that church.  You can’t tell from first impressions if the Church is going to be like the Church in Acts 2.  Finding a family you can confess your sins to, ask for prayer from, and share communion with is hard to find.

You can’t really make an informed decision if you yourself are not informed.  If you have a very small or immature understanding of scripture and doctrines, it will be hard for you to find a good Church.  You should read and study your Bible.  Get grounded in scripture so you can tell a good Church from a bad one.  If you walk in the door, and see the church; picking up snakes, rolling on the floor, naming it and claiming it, being of fire, planting seeds, speaking in tongues, blowing a shofar while wearing a prayer shawl, and looking for demons in every person, then I don’t think you need to check any further.  It is safe to say, you can go on to the next church.

So what things really matter?  Here is my list.

  1. Orthodoxy, orthodoxy, orthodoxy!
  2. Theology, are they Arminian, Reformed, Pentecostal, Charismatic, Continuationists, Cessationists, Egalitarians, Complementarians, and so on?
  3. What kind of Church government do they utilize?
  4. What ministries do they engage in?
  5. How/where was the Pastor educated?
  6. Are they part of a denomination?
  7. What is their statement of faith?
  8. Are they Christ centered or man centered?
  9. Do they believe the Bible is the authoritative word of God, infallible, and inerrant?
  10. Are there opportunities for me to use my God-given gifts?
  11. Have I heard of any potential areas of concern with that Church?  if so I need to ask the Pastor about those issues face to face.

This blog will be focusing on the, “First Impression” aspect of choosing a Church for the time being.  As we visit local Churches, I will post an evaluation of that Church.  I am doing this more for my family than anyone else.  As we go I will get the Pastors contact information, and try to ascertain the more important details.  I hope this is helpful for others in the area as well.church_21

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Church Visits and First Impressions

Over the next several weeks we are going to be visiting some local Churches. (good and bad) I am setting a list of criteria to evaluate our visits by. Afterwards, I will post a short article conveying our impression of the Church. I hope it will be helpful in deciding what we are going to do in the near future.

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Having a good translation matters.

Here are 3 good renderings of these vv. From KJV, NASB, and ESV.  See what differences you notice between these 3 and the last 3 renderings.

 

Make Your Calling Sure

 

3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:3-11 KJV)

 

3seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.4For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.5Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge,6and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness,7and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love.8For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.9For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.10Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble;11for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you. (2 Peter 1:3-11 NASB)

 

Confirm Your Calling and Election

3His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us toc his own glory and excellence,d4by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.5For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue,e and virtue with knowledge,6and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,7and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.8For if these qualitiesf are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.9For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins.10Therefore, brothers,g be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.11For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 1:3-11 ESV)

 

 

 

Here are 3 alternate renderings from really bad versions.

 

3 His divine power has given us everything we need to experience life and to reflect God’s true nature through the knowledge of the One who called us by His glory and virtue. 4 Through these things, we have received God’s great and valuable promises, so we might escape the corruption of worldly desires and share in the divine nature.

God took the first step to rescue us from this corrupt world. He has granted us His power, revealed to us true knowledge, and spoken to us great promises. He has done all this for a reason: that we might participate in His own nature and reflect His own life. But we are not passive observers of God’s saving actions. We must receive His grace, grow in knowledge, and join Him in this work of redemption.

5 To achieve this, you will need to add virtue to your faith, and then knowledge to your virtue; 6 to knowledge, add discipline; to discipline, add endurance; to endurance, add godliness; 7 to godliness, add affection for others as sisters and brothers; and to affection, at last, add love. 8 For if you possess these traits and multiply them, then you will never be ineffective or unproductive in your relationship with our Lord Jesus the Anointed; 9 but if you don’t have these qualities, then you will be nearsighted and blind, forgetting that your past sins have been washed away. 10 Therefore, brothers and sisters, work that much harder to confirm that God has called you and claimed you. If you do this, then you will never fall along the way; 11 and you can be sure that you will be richly welcomed into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Anointed, our Liberating King.

(2 Peter 1:3-11 The Voice)

 

 

Growing in Faith

3 By his divine power, God has given us everything we need for living a godly life. We have received all of this by coming to know him, the one who called us to himself by means of his marvelous glory and excellence. 4 And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.

5 In view of all this, make every effort to respond to God’s promises. Supplement your faith with a generous provision of moral excellence, and moral excellence with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with patient endurance, and patient endurance with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love for everyone.

8 The more you grow like this, the more productive and useful you will be in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But those who fail to develop in this way are shortsighted or blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their old sins.

10 So, dear brothers and sisters,[a] work hard to prove that you really are among those God has called and chosen. Do these things, and you will never fall away. 11 Then God will give you a grand entrance into the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:3-11 NLT)

 

Living as the Lord’s Followers

3 We have everything we need to live a life that pleases God. It was all given to us by God’s own power, when we learned that he had invited us to share in his wonderful goodness. 4 God made great and marvelous promises, so that his nature would become part of us. Then we could escape our evil desires and the corrupt influences of this world.

5 Do your best to improve your faith. You can do this by adding goodness, understanding, 6 self-control, patience, devotion to God, 7 concern for others, and love. 8 If you keep growing in this way, it will show that what you know about our Lord Jesus Christ has made your lives useful and meaningful. 9 But if you don’t grow, you are like someone who is nearsighted or blind, and you have forgotten that your past sins are forgiven.

10 My friends, you must do all you can to show that God has really chosen and selected you. If you keep on doing this, you won’t stumble and fall. 11 Then our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will give you a glorious welcome into his kingdom that will last forever. (2 Peter 1:3-11 CEV)

 

I know many of you are like, “What’s wrong with these other versions?  Snyder is crazy!  These are fine.”  So what I’d like to do is post the Greek as well with the definitions so that you can judge for yourself which ones should be called translations and which ones should be burned.

 

3ὡς πάντα ἡμῖν τῆς θείας δυνάμεως αὐτοῦ τὰ πρὸς ζωὴν καὶ εὐσέβειαν δεδωρημένης διὰ τῆς ἐπιγνώσεως τοῦ καλέσαντος ἡμᾶς διὰ / ἰδίᾳ δόξης / δόξῃ καὶ ἀρετῆς / ἀρετῇ,

 

Hos panta emin tes Theias dynameos autou ta pros zoen kai eusebeian dedoremenes dia tes epignoseos tou kalesautos hemas dia/idia doxes/doxe kai arêtes/arête

 

As all things to us devine power of him, that pertain to life and godliness having given, through the knowledge of the one having called us, to his own glory and excellence

 

4δι’ ὧν τὰ τίμια καὶ μέγιστα ἡμῖν ἐπαγγέλματα δεδώρηται, ἵνα διὰ τούτων γένησθε θείας κοινωνοὶ φύσεως, ἀποφυγόντες τῆς ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἐν ἐπιθυμίᾳ φθορᾶς.

 

Di hon ta timia kai megista hemin epangelmata dedoretai, ina dia touton genesthe theias koinonoi physeos, apophygontes tes en to kosmo en epithymia phthoras.

 

Through which his precious and magnificent to us promises he has given, that through these you might become of the devine partakers nature, having escaped the in the world through sinful desire, decay.

 

5καὶ αὐτὸ τοῦτο δὲ σπουδὴν πᾶσαν παρεισενέγκαντες ἐπιχορηγήσατε ἐν τῇ πίστει ὑμῶν τὴν ἀρετήν, ἐν δὲ τῇ ἀρετῇ τὴν γνῶσιν,

 

Kai auto touto de spouden pasan pareisenegkantes epichoregesate en te pistei hymon ten areten, en de te arete ten gnosin

 

Also very reason for this now, earnestness having all brought in deeply, supplement into faith your virtue into and virtue knowledge,

 

6ἐν δὲ τῇ γνώσει τὴν ἐγκράτειαν, ἐν δὲ τῇ ἐγκρατείᾳ τὴν ὑπομονήν, ἐν δὲ τῇ ὑπομονῇ τὴν εὐσέβειαν,

 

En de tn gnosei ten egkrateian, en de te egkrateia ten hypomonen, en de te hypomone ten eusebeian,

 

Into moreover knowledge, self-control into moreover, self-control, endurance into moreover endurance, godliness

 

7ἐν δὲ τῇ εὐσεβείᾳ τὴν φιλαδελφίαν, ἐν δὲ τῇ φιλαδελφίᾳ τὴν ἀγάπην·

 

En de te eusebeia ten philadelphian, en de te philadelphia ten agapen;

 

In moreover godliness, brotherly affection in moreover brotherly affection, love.

 

8ταῦτα γὰρ ὑμῖν ὑπάρχοντα καὶ πλεονάζοντα οὐκ ἀργοὺς οὐδὲ ἀκάρπους καθίστησιν εἰς τὴν τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐπίγνωσιν·

 

Tauta gar hymin hyparchonta kai pleonazonta ouk argous oude akarpous kathistesin eis ten tou kypiou hemon Iesou Christou epignosin;

 

These things indeed in you being and abounding, neither idle or unfruitful make you, as to the of the Lord of us, Jesus Christ, knowledge;

 

9ᾧ γὰρ μὴ πάρεστιν ταῦτα, τυφλός ἐστιν μυωπάζων, λήθην λαβὼν τοῦ καθαρισμοῦ τῶν πάλαι αὐτοῦ ἁμαρτιῶν.

 

Ho gar me parestin tauta typhgos estin muopazon, gethen gabon tou katharismou ton palai autou amartion.

 

In whomever for not are present these things blind he is being short sighted forgetfulness having received of the purification the former of him sins.

 

10διὸ μᾶλλον, ἀδελφοί, σπουδάσατε βεβαίαν ὑμῶν τὴν κλῆσιν καὶ ἐκλογὴν ποιεῖσθαι· ταῦτα γὰρ ποιοῦντες οὐ μὴ πταίσητέ ποτε·

 

Dio mallon, adelphoi, spoudasate bebaian hymon ten klesin kai eklogen poieisthai; tauta gar poiountes ou me ptaisete pote;

 

Therefore rather brothers be diligent sure your calling and election to make these things indeed to be practicing never not shall you stumble at any time.

 

11οὕτως γὰρ πλουσίως ἐπιχορηγηθήσεται ὑμῖν ἡ εἴσοδος εἰς τὴν αἰώνιον βασιλείαν τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ.

 

Hoytos gar plousios epichoregethesetai hymin ho eisodos ies ten aionion basileian tou kuriou hemon kai soteros Iesou Christou.

 

In this way indeed richly will be supplied to you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of the Lord  of us and savior Jesus Christ.

 

( 2 Peter 1:3-11 Westcott and Hort / [NA27 variants])