Review of the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece Greek – English New Testament
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Review of the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece Greek – English New Testament

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Normally I start a review with all of the unboxing and physical qualities of the Bible I’m reviewing.  This is going to be an exception.  I am not a Koine Greek expert or scholar.  I just know the Greek alphabet and some very basic basics so don’t expect any sage wisdom or keen insights into the Greek from me on this review.  That being said, the reason I am listing all of the info from Hendrickson’s site is that there are many Greek New Testaments out there and I want to make sure that if you are looking to purchase one that you don’t accidently get one you aren’t after.  After the information from the American Publisher I will do my usual review process.

This Greek New Testament is a parallel New Testament with the Nestle-Aland Greek on one page and the New Revised Standard Version or NRSV and Revised English Bible on the opposing page.  Here is some info pulled from Hendrickson’s page;

Product Description

This is the twenty-eighth edition of the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece (NA28). NA28 is the standard scholarly edition of the Greek New Testament used by scholars, Bible translators, professors, students, and pastors worldwide. Now NA28 has been revised and improved: • Critical apparatus revised and easier to use • Papyrii 117-127 included for the first time • In-depth revision of the Catholic Epistles, with more than 30 changes to the upper text • Scripture references systematically reviewed for accuracy • The NA28 with NRSV/REB Greek-English New Testament includes the 28th edition of the Nestle Aland Novum Testamentum Graece, the New Revised Standard Version, and the Revised English Bible.
Editor Bio
The Institute for New Testament Textual Research is located at the University of Münster. Their central task is to research the textual history of the New Testament and to reconstruct its Greek initial text on the basis of the entire manuscript tradition, the early translations and patristic citations. Foremost among the results of this research is the ongoing publication of the Editio Critica Maior. The Institute produces several more editions and a variety of tools for NT scholarship, including the concise editions known as the Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece and the UBS Greek New Testament.

You can view it here, http://www.hendrickson.com/html/product/700352.trade.html?&category=all#curr

The New Testament arrived in a cardboard box from Hendrickson.  It had airbag cushions and arrived undamaged.

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Upon opening the box I was presented with the New Testament wrapped in plastic shrink wrap. The cover is a blue textured hardcover, but it is very thin book board.

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It is almost exactly the same size as my Cambridge Clarion Bible.  There are some notes on the translation in the front.

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This New Testament is printed and bound in Germany.

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It is a very nice sewn binding.  I was a little doubtful of the book being worth $99.00 when I saw the cover, but once I opened it and saw the quality of the print and sewn binding along with the Greek, NSRV, and REB I thought better of it.  I am not a fan of the NSRV.  I would never buy that version as a standalone Bible.  I believe that their gender inclusive directives for translating are not true to the overall context of the word of God.  I am not very familiar with the REB.  I was surprised that they were able to cram in the Greek and two English translations without making this New Testament bigger than it is.  Of course being just a New Testament is the key to the size of this book.  When you look at the inside covers of this New Testament you are seeing the only maps it has.  If you purchased this I am certain you didn’t do so for maps though.  You probably want to do some Greek studies.  For that purpose I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.  I am not sure what size the font is.  It isn’t specified in any of the information I’ve seen.  It appears to be approximately 8 point font.

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I’ll have to e-mail Hendrickson and ask them.  When I find out I will post the information as an update.  The print is sharp and clear contrasting well against this cream colored paper.  The paper is opaque and smooth.  It feels like a high quality Bible paper.  I already mentioned that on one page you’ll have the Greek and then on the other you’ll have the NRSV and the REB.  The NRSV is in plain type and the REB is in italics.  There is one gold color ribbon marker that.  It appears to be purposely frayed on the end.

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The binding is very well done.  It is sewn and flexible.  I opened it right up and it didn’t need any breaking in.  It opens past flat when you hold it in one hand.

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I found it to be just the right size for reading or studying.  In the back you’ll find the appendices.  The only thing I’d like to see is this type of New Testament with the NASB instead of the NRSV.  So there you have it, my review of a neat little Greek New Testament with two English translations in parallel.

Retail: $99.95 Size: 5.25 x 7.33 inches Binding: Cloth Hardcover Pages: 1728 Pub Date: April 2013 ISBN: 9781619700352 ISBN-13: 9781619700352 Item Number: 700352

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Hey, how ‘bout those free King James Version Bibles the Mormons give away? Surely it is just a KJV Bible right?…

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How many people have picked up a Mormon KJV without knowing where it came from?  How many people just took it for granted that it was the same as the 1611 authorized.  Well, it isn’t.  This is what they have to say about it on their site, 1“As guided by the Spirit, Joseph spent about three years going through the Bible, making thousands of corrections to the text and restoring information that had been lost. This restored information sheds marvelous light on many doctrines that are not clearly presented in the Bible as it exists today. These inspired revisions to the text of the Bible are known as the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Hundreds of passages from the Joseph Smith Translation are now included in the Latter-day Saint edition of the King James Version of the Bible.”

Want to know why they don’t just use the Joseph Smith Bible?  It is because the, “Reorganized Latter Day Saints” or as they are known now the, “Community of Christ” holds the copy right to the Joseph Smith translation.  Of course it behooves them to not use that translation.  Now that many of us have access to the very old Greek and Hebrew texts with some education we can easily tell that Joseph Smith’s version is a per-version.  We can also contact experts on ancient texts as easily as sending them an e-mail and most of them are happy to explain how Joseph Smith’s per-version is completely, ludicrously, and laughably, the worst fraud attempt outside of the New Word Translation from the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

So they keep passing it off as the authorized KJV when it clearly is not and is even on their web page.  Let’s face it, Mormons have a low regard for the Bible in comparison to their other documents anyway.  Their 8th article of faith explains that plainly, 2“We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”  We can see that they hold the BOM in higher regard than the Bible and we know their theology and doctrines are completely anti-Christ.

So why do many Mormons insist it is the same KJV?  One reason is that they just don’t know any better.  Mormons like Christians have tons of ignorant people wandering about their ranks claiming to be one of them, while never having read or studied what it actually means to be, “one of them.”  Theology and doctrine matter!  We can’t just keep going on in ignorance.  If you are Mormon, study your documents and see if you agree.  If you can’t agree with your theology and doctrines, leave the church.  If you are Christian, study your documents and see if you agree.  If you can’t affirm you theology and doctrines then leave.

Of course the more insidious reason is that they are purposed deceivers working for Satan.  Why not?  He is their brother and according to them the brother of Jesus.  They don’t see him the way he is explained in the Bible.  You have to remember we are dealing with an unreasonable crowd here.  Most of them have been so blinded by the devil that unless there is a miracle of regeneration worked in them they won’t even leave based on intellectual honesty and reason.  They will suspend them for the sake of their fictitious system of obtaining godhood.

Seriously, how many 2000 year old Biblical texts do we have to dig up before they say, “Hmm, perhaps the Bible is reliable and Joseph was a lying sack of cult.”  It is getting ri-freeking-diculous here folks.  They actually have to willfully close their eyes, ears, and minds to all of the evidence against their false prophet just to keep believing.  “I’m gonna be a god one day, I’m gonna be a god one day, I’m gonna be a god one day, I’m gonna be a god one day.”  Really? Come on!  That doesn’t sound a bit blasphemous or satanic to you?  Really!?  REALLY!!!???

  1. https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-joseph-smith/chapter-17?lang=eng
  2. http://www.mormon.org/beliefs/articles-of-faith
Local Church Bible Publishers, The Best Authorized KJV Publisher You’ve Never Heard of.
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Local Church Bible Publishers, The Best Authorized KJV Publisher You’ve Never Heard of.

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Evidence KJV LCBP Red Wide Margin LCBP Black Hand Size 009

A Review of the, “400E1R Mid-Size Note Takers Red 1 Piece (Executive)”

First a little about Local Church Bible Publishers, if you are like me, I had never heard of them, until I did a search on youtube for quality leather covered, sewn binding Bibles.  Then I was confronted with what seemed to be southern brother touting the virtues of his LCBP Bible.  I was a curious.  The cover looked pretty good and the inside cover was edge lined as well as perimeter stitched.

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I searched some more and found the video of their manufacture process.  I was pretty impressed, but then I found out that they only make the authorized 1611 King James.  Now, I don’t have a problem with using a 1611 King James, I just happen to like the NASB and a couple other modern translations better.  Now all you KJV onlyists settle down out there, and stop calling me a heretic long enough to read about the positive features of the LCBP Mid-Size Note Takers wide margin Bible.  If you want to find out what LCBP is all about you can follow this link to their about page.

As for their products, I have a couple of their Bibles and have found them to be generally superior to all other Bibles in their price range as far as the construction and materials go.  The Mid-Size Note Takers in Red Leather came in a cardboard box.  The Bible inside was wrapped horizontally and vertically with paper.  It was not damaged at all in the shipping process.  The first couple of things I noticed when I took it out of the packaging was the smell of leather and the bright red cover.  It was very red.  It stands out.  You don’t see many Bibles as red as this one.

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I’ve seen burgundy Bibles, but this is straight, bright, and red.  I also noticed that the cover was very soft.  It wasn’t shiny and slick like cheaper pigskin leather.  I also noticed that it didn’t have much of a texture to it.  At first when I went to open the Bible I was being careful turning the pages because I didn’t want to tear the pages if they were stuck together, but me apprehensions were unfounded.  The gold gilded page edges didn’t stick together at all.

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The cover is very supple and can be rolled up without hurting it.

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The inside cover lining is perimeter stitched to the outer cover and is just as flexible as the outer cover.  The liner is black.  The perimeter stitching is red like the cover and two matching ribbon markers.  This is an edge lined Bible.  The Bible, despite its name is not mid-size.  It is 9.9″ x 6.75″ x 1.75″

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I think that their designation of mid-size is in relation to the Bibles they produce and not representative of what we see in the market.  The spine has the words, “Holy Bible” at the top and, “Authorized King James” in the middle, and then at the bottom, “Church” heat stamped in gold foil.

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The Paper is opaque and thick.  There are generous 2.5” margins for note taking.

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The paper is thick enough to endure being written on and have minimal show through.  The 11 point font is printed clear and sharp.  This is a black letter edition all text is black.  The text is arranged in a single column verse format.  This aids in ease of use and lends itself to note taking and referencing.

The binding is sewn giving this Bible durability and flexibility.

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It has a concordance and maps in the back.  This Bible is printed and bound in the U.S.A. by LCBP as ministry.  You can purchase it at the link below.

http://localchurchbiblepublishers.com/product/400e1r-mid-size-note-takers-red-1-piecered-thread-executive/

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Mormons believe that salvation comes through Joseph Smith!!! No, I’m not kidding, it is on this website.

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Mormons believe that salvation comes through Joseph Smith!!! No, I’m not kidding, it is on this website.http://www.mormonhandbook.com/home/salvation.html#joseph

Salvation through Joseph Smith – Salvation – | – Mormon Handbook
To understand the LDS view of salvation it is helpful to first understand these LDS views: God …
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So You Would Like to Compile Your Own Study Bible? A Review of the NASB Wide Margin Reference Bible, Black Edge-Lined Goatskin Leather, Red Letter Text Edition.
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So You Would Like to Compile Your Own Study Bible? A Review of the NASB Wide Margin Reference Bible, Black Edge-Lined Goatskin Leather, Red Letter Text Edition.

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I like to keep a few of my Bibles unsullied and free of notation.  With some high quality Bibles it seems wrong or sinful to make marks in them.  It feels like an affront to the artistry and craftsmanship that goes into them.  While other Bibles I own are marked up as if a child with a box of crayons were set free on them.  I feel no shame in marking up my $30 Chinese made NASB Ultrathin.  It is a good sturdy Bible, but obviously there are not aesthetics there demanding appreciation.  So margin notes, underlining, and highlighting abounds.

The Cambridge Wide Margin is a strange Bible.  It confounds my sensibilities.  It is a fine Bible, but it demands that you use it like a workhorse.  Moreover, the moment you start using it, you begin to appreciate the craftsmanship, as you never would have, without the resources predisposed for your notation.   Besides the 1 5/16” outside margin, you have 32 pages of ruled note paper in the back, and blank index pages with alphabetical headings, so you can compile an index of your own as well.  To have a wide margin Bible is one thing, all you need is wide margins, but to have a Bible that you can utilize to make your own study Bible is another.

When I took this Bible out of the box and first held it I was concerned that it was too wide.  That was my first impression.  I failed to take into consideration the purpose of this Bible.  I put the Wide Margin next to my MacArthur Study Bible and was a bit shocked to see that it was only very slightly wider.  This type of Bible is meant to be written in.  Its natural habitat should be a well-lit desk or table.  The type of work that is going to be needed to complete the endeavor the owner of this Bible has embarked on will take many several hour sessions of focused study and notation.  I don’t see that happening from one’s easy chair.  No, a task this daunting requires a quiet well lit sanctuary alone with God’s word.  Picture a monk hunched over, with quill in hand, doing a scribe’s work by candle light in some cold stony abbey, or perhaps his modern counterpart the scholarly theologian, at some stuffy seminary quartered away in an office, in much the same fashion as the monk, only with better lighting, heating, and cooling.  Well, that might be how you would see yourself using this Bible for its intended purpose if you were so bold.

Bold enough to actually put your thoughts down on this beautiful Bible paper.  It is nice opaque and over 30 gsm.

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The quality of the paper will help to keep your notes from bleeding through the page.  The color of the paper is off white making for a good contrast between it and the sharply printed text.  The text is 8 point font in black and the words of Christ are in red.  The red text is printed uniformly and sharply like the black.  The text is arranged in a double column paragraph format with center column references.

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If the references weren’t there the outer margins could have been closer to two inches, giving you more room for your notes.  As it is the references are useful.  I think the only way you could do more with a Bible is if you purchased a loose leaf Bible.  Most of us will probably opt for a wide margin instead.

In the front of the Wide Margin you will find a presentation page, an introduction to the translation, and table of contents.

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The Wide margin includes as previously mentioned 32 pages of ruled paper,

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a concordance,

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and a blank index section along with 15 color maps and map index in the back.

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The maps are in color and printed on a flat paper instead of a glossy paper.  The glossy paper tends to crack and tear.  It is better to have these features printed the way they are.  There are two flat and wide ribbon markers in this Bible helping you keep your place.

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This is especially helpful considering the kind of work one would be doing with this Bible.  The page edges are art gilded with red under gold.

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The front cover is imprinted with the words, “Holy Bible” in gold and the spine is imprinted with, “Holy Bible” at the top, “New American Standard” immediately under that, “Wide Margin Edition” in the middle, and “Cambridge” at the bottom.  These are all printed in gold.

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The cover on this edition is crafted from black goatskin leather.  It has a natural grain that is soft to the touch and comfortable to hold.  It is not slick and shiny like some less expensive covers made from pigskin leather.

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The inside cover is edge lined and sewn to the outer cover.

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The edge lined goatskin cover coupled with the fine smyth-sewn binding make this Bible very durable and supple.

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This Bible opens easily no matter where you start and lays flat fresh out of the box.

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If hold it in one hand you will find that it drapes over your hand.

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The Wide Margin is printed and bound by Jongbloed of the Netherlands.  They are known for their craftsmanship in printing and binding fine Bibles.

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As usual Cambridge has excelled in producing a high quality Bible that will set the standard for all other wide margin editions from other publishers.  They have provided a target to aim for with their NASB Wide Margin in black goatskin leather.  I have seen very few wide margin editions that come close to the Cambridge one.  I hope that other publishers will rise to the challenge and start manufacturing their Bibles with the concept that it is God’s word and not solely a product to be carelessly mass produced.

In the picture below you can see the Wide Margin compared to the NASB MacArthur Study Bible.  This should give you an idea about the size of it.

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In these pictures you can see the Wide Margin on the bottom of a stack of Cambridge Bibles.  On top is the NASB Clarion, then the KJV Concord, and finally the Wide Margin.

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Here are some links to retailers selling this Bible

amazon.com

Christianbook.com

evangelicalbible.com

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A Review of the NASB Giant Print Reference Bible, in Genuine Leather, Burgundy.
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A Review of the NASB Giant Print Reference Bible, in Genuine Leather, Burgundy.

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Hello, 14 point font! This is definitely what the Doctor ordered if your eyes aren’t what they used to be.

The giant print NASB was delivered to my house, as usual from Lockman Foundation’s sales branch, www.americanbiblesales.com  it was packed in a cardboard box with paper as packaging material.  It was sufficiently safe from harm.

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Inside the box was a two piece retail box.  I would suggest holding onto it for storage.  Once opened, I was presented with a layer of plastic wrapping that had to be defeated before I could get this beauty out to examine it.

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Once the plastic was discarded, I was pleasantly greeted by the familiar smell of a nice leather cover.  There are numerous Bibles out there that say they have a genuine leather cover, but they look like and feel like bonded leather.  They have a fake grain pressed into them and their covers look shiny.  Not this big boy, the cover on this has nice texture and tactile feel to it.  Honestly, for the small price of this Bible I’d expect a cheaper feeling cover.  I thought the burgundy color was just right as well, not brazen, but still different than the venerable black.

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The spine of the Bible has the words, “Holy Bible” at the top.  Immediately below is, “New American Standard Bible Updated Edition.”  At the bottom is, “Foundation Publications” and the NASB logo.  Above them are the words, “Giant Print.”  There are decorative lines separating the words.

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The cover has a lined pressed into it around its perimeter for decorative purposes.  It adds a nice touch to finish it off.

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The inside cover is lined with a vinyl liner that is color matched to the cover. It is glued down over the corners and edges of the cover.

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The text block is firmly attached to the cover.  I noticed no problems with fit and finish.  It looked pretty good for a Bible printed and bound in China.

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The binding for that matter is a sewn binding.  It is a tad bit tighter than some of the other ones that Lockman Foundation puts out.  This is neither a draw back or a benefit as far as function goes.  The Giant Print edition opens flat and is pleasant to use.

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The sewn binding will help ensure years of use.  The Giant Print Bible maintains typical 6 ½” x 9 ¼” for the width and height, but is a tad bit thicker at 1 ¾” It is a little heavier than your typical reference Bible, but not by much.  Even with the slight size difference it is still pretty easy to hold and read.

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The page edges are gold gilded.

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The paper is a decent quality standard Bible paper 28 gsm.  It doesn’t have a problem with text ghosting.  I think Lockman must have realized that if you are buying a Bible with humongous font it isn’t because you have good eyesight.  The Bible paper, 14 point font, and uniformly printed text, all aid in making this a very legible Bible without making it too cumbersome.

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Also you should note that this is a red letter edition.

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The text is in a double column verse format with references at the end of each paragraph. There are limited references, for a reference Bible.  This one has about 13,000 references.  I doubt that anyone considering a 14 point font giant print edition is worried about having a ton of references though.

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There is a ribbon marker that matches the color of the cover.  It is of average quality as far as ribbon markers go.

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In the end there is a 146 page Dictionary/Thesaurus/Concordance. It should come in handy.  There is enough there to be useful, but not so much as to unnecessarily add to the bulk.

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After that we have a section devoted to book introductions.  Each book in the Bible has a nice introduction to aid the reader in their studies.

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Also, a section on God’s promises is provided after the book introductions.

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“Where to find help when” and “Verses for reflection” appear at the very end before the color maps.

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I think the biggest cons here would be the size of the Bible. For the very frail and elderly this would have to rest on a table for them to read it.  However, most elderly people won’t have any trouble holding this Bible to read.  The con is a very slight one.  We all have to obey physics here.  If you want giant text you have to sacrifice something.  I don’t think I’ve seen a better job on a giant print edition to date.

The pros here are of course the 14 point font and the wonderful cover at a very reasonable price.   Could hardly believe I was holding a $50 Bible.  It could have been twice that.  A noteworthy thing is that the presentation and records pages in the front seem to be a flat paper as opposed to the glossy paper they have been made out of.  I hope that Lockman carries this over to the maps as well.  This flat paper doesn’t crack or tear as easy as the glossy paper they have been made of in the past.

If you are in the market for one of these Giant Print Bibles they can be had for around $50. If you are lucky you might find them on sale for less.  Here are a couple of links to make it easier.

http://www.americanbiblesales.com/search/isbnlist1.php?ISBN=1581351100&hilite=yes

http://www.amazon.com/Giant-Print-Reference-Burgundy-Genuine-Leather/dp/1581351097/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417034883&sr=1-1&keywords=9781581351095&pebp=1417034894361

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Feeling nostalgic today.

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Ever wonder why postmodernism has spread so quickly?  Well wonder no more.  It has been taught by the public school system for the last 20 years.  That’s right, your lovely tax payer funded school system teaches postmodernism.  To sum up what postmodernism is I’ll just say that it rejects the notion of objective truth in favor of a personal perception of what is true for each individual.  How ludicrous is that?  I mean… Really?  Here is an example, “Kid’s playing a game and nobody looses because they are all winners.”  More importantly God becomes whatever the individual decides.  This is called idolatry.  When you fashion a god that is more to your liking, when you don’t accept the reality of the sovereign God of the Bible it is called idolatry!  So they teach the kids in a circuitous manner all about subjective truth and this my friends finds it’s way…

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Silly liberals, Theology is for Reasonable People. Egalitarians are at it again…
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Silly liberals, Theology is for Reasonable People. Egalitarians are at it again…

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How many of you have heard this left-wing liberal theological stance that Adam was not a man, but a he/she with the genetic info for both sexes within itself? Yeah, I know right?  They call it, “The Adam” and then their story goes something like this; God made it from the dirt, thus its name, because the Hebrew word for dirt is, “’adamah” so that is why that he/she creature was called, “Adam.”  Then God put it to sleep and didn’t literally make females from its rib but more figuratively created the separate genders at that point.  If you are laughing like I was when I first heard this nonsense, stop!  This is the garbage they are teaching in seminaries.  I may not have represented their position the way they would like, but this is how I understand what they are saying.

So how about all the verses talking about gender roles, authority, submission, shadows and types that depend on these concepts, and the authority of scripture? Well, no problem for the liberal theologians, they just call what they don’t like allegory and when they can’t, they say that the Bible isn’t really fully the word of God, and it can’t be fully relied on.  Well, not to sound like, “The Church Lady” but who does that remind you of?  Hmm?  Someone with a serpent sounding hissing voice in the garden maybe?  Well, I wonder who that could be?  I wonder who casts doubt on God’s word?  Who could it be?  Does it remind you of…  SATAN!!!?

Surely God made Adam, the first human as a male from the start. Surely Eve was made from and for Adam as the word of God says.  In 1 Corinthians 11:1-15 we can even read what God said about it as Paul restates the creation of man and woman in the New Covenant for a group of believers who were falling into egalitarianism just like we are today.  They needed a correction from God then as we do now.

Here is a section of an article arguing for the erring position posted on http://newlife.id.au/ the link to the original article is, http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/human-man-woman-genesis-2/

“In Genesis 2 we have the creation account of the very first human being.  In English translations of Genesis 2 this first human is simply called “man”.  This “man” is understood by most people as referring to a male human rather than to a generic human.  However, in the Hebrew text, the first “man” is not specifically referred to as a male human (ish) until after the “operation” mentioned in Genesis 2:21-22.

After the “operation”, the now male human sees the female human and says, “This one is bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh!  She will be called ‘woman’ (ishshah) because she was taken out of ‘man’ (ish).”  The first woman (ishshah) and the first man (ish) had both been a part of, or one side of, the first human being (ha’adam).[1]  In Genesis 2:23 the man indicates that they shared the same flesh and bone.

The Hebrew word adam means “human being” – and not necessarily a male human being.  In the early chapters of Genesis it is often used with the definite article = ha’adam (הָאָדָם)  meaning “the human being” (cf Gen. 5:2).  Occasionally it serves as a proper name “Adam”, usually written without the article.[2]

In the screenshots below, I have highlighted every incidence of ha’adam (the human being) in yellow.  (N.B. In verse 5 there is no article but the context indicates that adam is not a proper noun.)[3]

I have also highlighted every incidence of ish (man) with blue, and ishshah (woman) with pink.  By looking at the screenshots below it is evident that it is not until the woman is taken out of the first human that we clearly see an ish, a male person, and not before.

Have a look.  Is it clear?”

Just because what is implied by the author could be so, doesn’t mean that it is. This is an error in logic that she has made without considering the rest of scripture.  Let’s take a look at the problem.  She assumes that the first of mankind was a creature containing both sexes or neither and that God did an, “operation” on this creature to turn the source creature into a masculine one as it was not before and then to make a feminine one from that source creature.  The scripture doesn’t support this furthermore, it definitely repudiates it in 1 Corinthians 11:1-16.  Don’t take my word for it look for yourself.

1Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.  2Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you. 3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. 4Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. 5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. 7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake. 10Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God. 13Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God.

In v. 7 God explains that man is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. We can see the plain meaning of scripture here.  Then the Greek word, “ἀνὴρ aner” is used in v. 8  it is specifically, “man.”  Read how woman came from man according to God through Paul.  So either God is confused or the egalitarians are willfully in rebellion against the God of scripture and their God given roles, or God is confused and doesn’t remember what He said in Genesis, or Paul was just a sexist member of the patriarchy trying to keep women down…  Really people?…  I mean, seriously?  Just repent, accept what God says in His word and conform to His word and will.  Then v.9 hammers it home, “9for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake.”  It is that simple.  To go a bit further so that the liberals don’t try to eisegete vv. 11-16 yes, men and women in Christ are all dependent on Him, and men are born of mothers, but the point in context is not the condition of procreation stated here, but rather God’s creation and it’s total dependency on Him.  If you still want to be a whiny baby I refer you to v. 16. Basically this is how it is and if you don’t like it tough.  Paul is putting it simply, “You are wrong.”  Have a good day.

p.s. if my tone seems a bit abrasive, that’s because I am irritated by all of the nonsense we have to entertain and argue against.  It seems ludicrous to me that people would keep rehashing all of the old heresies with new labels and faces.  It agitates me that people have to make apologetic answers instead of just saying, “You’re and idiot.  Sit down and be quite Sir/Ma’am.”  Ignorant people listen to these misguided guides and follow them into folly, so we have no choice, but to speak up.

The gospel of Jesus
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The gospel of Jesus

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The gospel of Jesus. We are a sinners who deserve death and hell. He is God incarnate. He is righteous and holy. He deserves all of the majesty of Heaven and our praise. In His longsuffering He endures our hatred of Him and His law. He condescends to save us from the condemnation of hell. He is raised upon a cross, thereupon crucified. He takes our punishment upon Himself, thus satisfying the justice of God. The wrath of God is assuaged by His atoning work. We hear about what He has done for us and either believe it or not. If not, then the flames of hell are waiting for us, and rightly so, for we are fully culpable for our transgressions. If we believe, then repentance is our faith revealed and testimony to the dying world. We hate our sins and turn to Christ our redeemer, who purchased us with His sacrifice upon the cross. He becomes our Lord and Master. Sin no longer rules us. Our minds are being renewed by the reading of His word. Our hearts are transformed into new living hearts with God honoring desires. He sanctifies us as we grow in faith and knowledge of Him. We are born again. Not to live as slaves to sin and death, but to live as bondservants of Christ and holiness. Love Jesus with all of your heart, for He is the Savior!