The next time a Mormon tells you that you are anti-mormon

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The next time a Mormon tells you that you are anti-mormon you tell them that you are not and that they are anti-Christian.  Then point them to the account of, “The First Vision” and Doctrine and Covenants 130.  Then they will see just how anti-everyone else they are.  Here is what the First Vision says about us;

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time.

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng

So according to the, “First Vision” we are all wrong and our beliefs are abominable.  Oh and Joseph Smith says there that the Father and Jesus appeared both bodily.  This is also backed up by D&C 130 which I will now quote;

“ 21 And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated.

22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.” https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng

So you can see here how they claim that the Father also has a body of flesh and blood even though the Bible teaches that the Father is Spirit.  We worship a different God then they do.  Don’t let Mormons get away with calling you anti-mormon when you disagree with them.  If they do, show them how they were anti-Christian first.  We have 2000 years of orthodoxy, tons of artifacts, over 4500 pieces of textual evidence supporting the continuity of the Bible, and geographic sites all over the middle east that support what the Bible says.  They have the wild imaginings of a fallen sinner hungry for power, wealth, and sexual immorality.

 

Joseph Smith fixes the Bible and Mormons believe this guy?

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Hey kids! Me again, did you know that Joseph Smith, the false prophet who founded Mormonism, fixed the Bible for us to?  Don’t be surprised if you hadn’t heard.  It is a little publicized thing.  They like to say that they use the King James Version, but they don’t really believe it is accurate.  “8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”

For not having the internet to look up Hebrew sources, for having to rely on hand copied manuscripts in the original languages and for not having discovered as many ancient manuscripts the old KJV translators did a pretty good job.  I wonder what happened to Joe Smith’s translation?  Well, I think we know.  By this time he had already gone on paper and proclaimed many false prophecies and new doctrines and once you’ve done that without studying the Bible you have to go back and change one or the other.  Can you guess which one he chose to change?  I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with heretic, oh you caught me it doesn’t rhyme with heretic.  That’s right he changed the Bible!  What audacity!  Hadn’t he heard of the Septuagint?  Hadn’t he heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?  Nope, the Dead Sea Scrolls weren’t dug up until the middle part of the last century, and apparently he didn’t even bother looking at the Septuagint, which was the Bible for the true Church as early as the 3rd century B.C.  The books we have in the Old Covenant were compiled and translated from Hebrew into Koine Greek, then later as the progressive revelation continued, the other books were added.  So this is the Bible the Church used and the Apostles quoted, but it wasn’t good enough for Joseph Smith!  Nope, he had to support all of his heresy.

So today I thought we would take a look at just a few differences in the Book of Genesis.  We will also look at the consequences.

Genesis 1:1 JST “And it came to pass, that the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Behold, I reveal unto you concerning this heaven and this earth; write the words which I speak.”

Genesis 1:1 NASB “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”

Hebrew Genesis 1:1 “בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ׃” or bə-rê-šîṯ (In the beginning) bā-rā (created) ’ĕ-lō-hîm; (God) ’êṯ  haš-šā-ma-yim (the heavens) wə-’êṯ (and) hā-’ā-reṣ. (the earth)

And finally the KJV that J.S. didn’t think supported his false prophecies and doctrines enough so he just changed it to make it fit better.

Genesis 1:1 KJV “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”

Can you see a difference yet?  Pretty obvious he didn’t use any manuscripts to translate from.  Matter of fact he didn’t even claim that he did.  Nope, he just studied the Bible and changed it the way he claimed it was revealed to him to change.  You read correctly, he used personal revelation as his means for rewriting the GOD’S WORD.  Remember, the Mormons claim the Bible is not translated correctly and that is why they can just disregard it when it doesn’t support their doctrine.   I would compare the first verse to the other translations, but there is no need to.  It doesn’t match at all.  Let’s see if it gets any better in the next few verses.

JST Genesis 1:2-8

“2 I am the Beginning and the End; the Almighty God. By mine Only Begotten I created these things.

 

3 Yea, in the beginning I created the heaven, and the earth upon which thou standest.

 

4 And the earth was without form, and void; and I caused darkness to come up upon the face of the deep.

 

5 And my Spirit moved upon the face of the waters, for I am God.

 

6 And I, God, said, Let there be light, and there was light.

 

7 And I, God, saw the light, and that light was good. And I, God, divided the light from the darkness.

 

8 And I, God, called the light day, and the darkness I called night. And this I did by the word of my power; and it was done as I spake. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”

And now the NASB

2The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. 3Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

6Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so. 8God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

And the Hebrew,

וְהָאָ֗רֶץ הָיְתָ֥ה תֹ֙הוּ֙ וָבֹ֔הוּ וְחֹ֖שֶׁךְ עַל־פְּנֵ֣י תְהֹ֑ום וְר֣וּחַ אֱלֹהִ֔ים מְרַחֶ֖פֶת עַל־פְּנֵ֥י הַמָּֽיִם׃

Str Translit Hebrew English Morph
776 [e] wə-hā-’ā-reṣ, וְהָאָ֗רֶץ And the earth Noun
1961 [e] hā-yə-ṯāh הָיְתָ֥ה was Verb
8414 [e] ṯō-hū תֹ֙הוּ֙ without form Noun
922 [e] wā-ḇō-hū, וָבֹ֔הוּ and void Noun
2822 [e] wə-ḥō-šeḵ וְחֹ֖שֶׁךְ and darkness Noun
5921 [e] ‘al- עַל־ [was] on Prep
6440 [e] pə-nê פְּנֵ֣י the face Noun
8415 [e] ṯə-hō-wm; תְה֑וֹם of the deep Noun
7307 [e] wə-rū-aḥ וְר֣וּחַ And the Spirit Noun
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm, אֱלֹהִ֔ים of God Noun
7363 [e] mə-ra-ḥe-p̄eṯ מְרַחֶ֖פֶת moved Verb
5921 [e] ‘al- עַל־ on Prep
6440 [e] pə-nê פְּנֵ֥י the face Noun
4325 [e] ham-mā-yim. הַמָּֽיִם׃ of the waters Noun

וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֖ים יְהִ֣י אֹ֑ור וַֽיְהִי־אֹֽור׃

559 [e] way-yō-mer וַיֹּ֥אמֶר And said Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִ֖ים God Noun
1961 [e] yə-hî יְהִ֣י Let there be Verb
216 [e] ’ō-wr; א֑וֹר light Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ and there was Verb
216 [e] ’ō-wr. אֽוֹר׃ light Noun

וַיַּ֧רְא אֱלֹהִ֛ים אֶת־הָאֹ֖ור כִּי־טֹ֑וב וַיַּבְדֵּ֣ל אֱלֹהִ֔ים בֵּ֥ין הָאֹ֖ור וּבֵ֥ין הַחֹֽשֶׁךְ׃

7200 [e] way-yar וַיַּ֧רְא and saw Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִ֛ים God Noun
853 [e] ’eṯ- אֶת־ Acc
216 [e] hā-’ō-wr הָא֖וֹר the light Noun
3588 [e] kî- כִּי־ that Conj
2896 [e] ṭō-wḇ; ט֑וֹב [it was] good Adj
914 [e] way-yaḇ-dêl וַיַּבְדֵּ֣ל and divided Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm, אֱלֹהִ֔ים God Noun
996 [e] bên בֵּ֥ין a space between Prep
216 [e] hā-’ō-wr הָא֖וֹר the light Noun
996 [e] ū-ḇên וּבֵ֥ין and between Prep
2822 [e] ha-ḥō-šeḵ. הַחֹֽשֶׁךְ׃ the darkness Noun

וַיִּקְרָ֨א אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ לָאֹור֙ יֹ֔ום וְלַחֹ֖שֶׁךְ קָ֣רָא לָ֑יְלָה וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר יֹ֥ום אֶחָֽד׃ פ

7121 [e] way-yiq-rā וַיִּקְרָ֨א And called Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִ֤ים ׀ God Noun
216 [e] lā-’ō-wr לָאוֹר֙ the light Noun
3117 [e] yō-wm, י֔וֹם Day Noun
2822 [e] wə-la-ḥō-šeḵ וְלַחֹ֖שֶׁךְ and the darkness Noun
7121 [e] qā-rā קָ֣רָא he called Verb
3915 [e] lā-yə-lāh; לָ֑יְלָה Night Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ And were Verb
6153 [e] ‘e-reḇ עֶ֥רֶב the evening Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ and Verb
1242 [e] ḇō-qer בֹ֖קֶר the morning Noun
3117 [e] yō-wm י֥וֹם day Noun
259 [e] ’e-ḥāḏ. אֶחָֽד׃ the first Adj
פ

וַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים יְהִ֥י רָקִ֖יעַ בְּתֹ֣וךְ הַמָּ֑יִם וִיהִ֣י מַבְדִּ֔יל בֵּ֥ין מַ֖יִם לָמָֽיִם׃

559 [e] way-yō-mer וַיֹּ֣אמֶר And said Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm, אֱלֹהִ֔ים God Noun
1961 [e] yə-hî יְהִ֥י Let there be Verb
7549 [e] rā-qî-a‘ רָקִ֖יעַ a firmament Noun
8432 [e] bə-ṯō-wḵ בְּת֣וֹךְ in the midst Noun
4325 [e] ham-mā-yim; הַמָּ֑יִם of the waters Noun
1961 [e] wî-hî וִיהִ֣י let Verb
914 [e] maḇ-dîl, מַבְדִּ֔יל it divide Verb
996 [e] bên בֵּ֥ין a space between Prep
4325 [e] ma-yim מַ֖יִם the waters Noun
4325 [e] lā-mā-yim. לָמָֽיִם׃ from the waters Noun

וַיַּ֣עַשׂ אֱלֹהִים֮ אֶת־הָרָקִיעַ֒ וַיַּבְדֵּ֗ל בֵּ֤ין הַמַּ֙יִם֙ אֲשֶׁר֙ מִתַּ֣חַת לָרָקִ֔יעַ וּבֵ֣ין הַמַּ֔יִם אֲשֶׁ֖ר מֵעַ֣ל לָרָקִ֑יעַ וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן׃

6213 [e] way-ya-‘aś וַיַּ֣עַשׂ And made Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִים֮ God Noun
853 [e] ’eṯ- אֶת־ Acc
7549 [e] hā-rā-qî-a‘ הָרָקִיעַ֒ the firmament Noun
914 [e] way-yaḇ-dêl, וַיַּבְדֵּ֗ל and divided Verb
996 [e] bên בֵּ֤ין a space between Prep
4325 [e] ham-ma-yim הַמַּ֙יִם֙ the waters Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer אֲשֶׁר֙ which Prt
8478 [e] mit-ta-ḥaṯ מִתַּ֣חַת [were] under Noun
7549 [e] lā-rā-qî-a‘, לָרָקִ֔יעַ the firmament Noun
996 [e] ū-ḇên וּבֵ֣ין and from Prep
4325 [e] ham-ma-yim, הַמַּ֔יִם the waters Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer אֲשֶׁ֖ר which Prt
5921 [e] mê-‘al מֵעַ֣ל [were] above Prep
7549 [e] lā-rā-qî-a‘; לָרָקִ֑יעַ the firmament Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ and it was Verb
3651 [e] ḵên. כֵֽן׃ so Adj

וַיִּקְרָ֧א אֱלֹהִ֛ים לָֽרָקִ֖יעַ שָׁמָ֑יִם וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר יֹ֥ום שֵׁנִֽי׃ פ

7121 [e] way-yiq-rā וַיִּקְרָ֧א And called Verb
430 [e] ’ĕ-lō-hîm אֱלֹהִ֛ים God Noun
7549 [e] lā-rā-qî-a‘ לָֽרָקִ֖יעַ the firmament Noun
8064 [e] šā-mā-yim; שָׁמָ֑יִם Heaven Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ And were Verb
6153 [e] ‘e-reḇ עֶ֥רֶב the evening Noun
1961 [e] way-hî- וַֽיְהִי־ and Verb
1242 [e] ḇō-qer בֹ֖קֶר the morning Noun
3117 [e] yō-wm י֥וֹם day Noun
8145 [e] šê-nî. שֵׁנִֽי׃ the second Noun
פ

 

And now the KJV

1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The First Day: Light

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Second Day: Firmament

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

So as you can see, he didn’t even care about staying true to what was originally delivered to us as the very Word of God.  He did violence to the word just like the enemy of God that he was.  If he was a true prophet of God his work would have been the same as the other works, but it isn’t.  These works, except the KJV predate the time when Joseph Smith says the apostasy happened.  Remember, the Mormons claim that after the death of the last Apostle the Church fell into complete apostasy, never mind all of the Christians who maintained their faith all over the world in the face of persecution and martyrdom.  He either didn’t know that these texts were out there or predated his claims that the Church was apostate or he didn’t care.  I think, he didn’t know.

So in verse 2 he lies and says that God said, “I am the Beginning and the End; the Almighty God. By mine Only Begotten I created these things.”  You might ask yourself, “What is so wrong with that?” Well you’d have to understand Mormonism a little bit to get why he did this.  You see Mormons believe that God the Father actually has a flesh and blood body and he is married to a Mother Goddess, who through copulation with him produced many offspring.  Two of them would be the Mormon Jesus and his brother Satan.  When he says, “by my only begotten I created these things.”  He means that Jesus reformed matter that was already in existence.  He shaped into what he wanted to make.  If you notice J.S. rewrote Genesis to make it look like God was saying all these things directly to Moses.  This is to support their book of Moses which is completely fiction.

It really starts to get weird in chapter three.  There we see Satan and Jesus arguing over who gets to redeem mankind and protect his free agency?  I’m not making this garbage up.  You can read it for yourselves;

Genesis CHAPTER 3 JST

Rebellion of Satan — Man’s agency, temptation and fall.

1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying, That Satan whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning;

2 And he came before me, saying, Behold I, send me, I will be thy Son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore, give me thine honor.

3 But behold, my beloved Son, which was my beloved and chosen from the beginning, said unto me: Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

4 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him; and also that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten I caused that he should be cast down; and he became Satan.

5 Yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive, and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.

6 And now, the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field, which I, the Lord God, had made.

7 And Satan put it into the heart of the serpent, for he had drawn away many after him; and he sought also to beguile Eve, for he knew not the mind of God; wherefore, he sought to destroy the world.

I know, right!?  What the what!?  Here is the real word of God;

1Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” 2The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'” 4The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! 5“For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 6When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make [one] wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

There are so many changes it is hard to know where to start.  If I had more ambition I’d attack his abuse of the book of Isaiah.  Comparing it to the entire book of Isaiah recovered from the Dead Sea Scrolls would be fun, but lots of work.  For now, I will leave you with this to ponder, why would a true prophet of God make so many false prophecies and contradict the Bible so often he would have to write his own to support it?  Why would you want to believe that God was once a man who through Mormonism became an exalted man then eventually a god who only re-ordered matter to make things?  Why would you not worship the one true God who has never been made because he always existed?  He was never a sinful man like the Mormon god once was.  The true God made everything from nothing.  He transcends all other things.  The Mormon god is subject to the gods that sired him and they are subject to the ones who sired them and so on and on back eternally.  Does that sound like the one true God, worthy of worship to you?

I’m a mormon now! Yep, just call me LDS.

     I’ve decided to be a mormon now. I am LDS. I don’t believe Joseph Smith was a prophet. I don’t believe the book of mormon. I don’t believe that I need to be baptized into the mormon cult. I don’t believe that God was once just a man.  I don’t believe that Jesus and satan are brothers.  I believe in the Triune God of the Bible. I believe in His word, the Bible, as being infallible and inerrant.  I believe that the 2nd person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ, is God incarnate, and that He lived a perfectly sinless life, obeying all the laws to earn righteousness.  I believe He obeyed the will of the 1st person of the Trinity, God the Father, and went up on a cross to bear the sins of all who would be saved.  Their debt was imputed to Him, and His righteousness was imputed to them, so that they could be justified in the sight of God, thus glorifying God through the salvation of sinners.  I believe that God, being just, will pour out His wrath on those who have not been granted repenctance and faith.  He will be glorified in the damnation of sinners, by demonstrating His justice.

     So as you can see, I’m not really mormon.  I talked with a mormon man yesterday.  He insisted he was a Christian.  I asked him, “Are you a Baptist?”  He said, “No, I’m a mormon.”  I said, “Then you are NOT A CHRISTIAN!!!” 
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He looked very perplexed.  He didn’t understand why I was so offended.  I think he believed he was the one who should be offended.  I explained to him, “If you are a Christian then I am LDS.”  Then I told him the things that I mentioned previously in the first paragraph of this article.  To which he uttered a firm, “You can’t be a mormon if you don’t get baptized into the church!”  I then said, “Exaclty my point.  Thank you.  So then, ipso facto you are not a Christian.”  I was going to explain that if there are in fact, doctrines that make one mormon or not, then there are also doctrines that must be affirmed by a believer to verify that they are Christian, but alas the lad stormed off in a huff.

     So my mormon friends, I emplore you, please stop telling your people to declare, “I’m a Christian!”  When in fact they are not.  If you are so pleased with being LDS, just declare that you are LDS, but don’t insult, and offend me by blaspheming the one true God, whom I, and all true Christians serve.  We are not fooled, and neither is God.  Truly, we find it quite disturbing that you would consider them to be compatible, and obviously, so do you when confronted with the doctrinal differences.